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Anti-testing activism during a global pandemic - Shared screen with speaker view
Leticia Vasquez
38:22
Can thispresentation be conducting in Spanish too?
Julia Kogan
38:29
Amen :)
Kemala Karmen
39:23
Yes! This “learning loss” narrative is so corrosive AND ubiquity.
Kemala Karmen
39:34
*ubiquitous
Libya Doman
39:42
"Standardized testing is created to prove racial inferiority. " 🔥🔥
Rachel Posner
39:53
So tired of this BS learning loss narrative.
Julia Kogan
40:23
They will catch up eventually, the issue is losing their lives or the lives of their families. This idea of standardized testing right now is such BS
Muba yarofulani
40:51
preach, your words are so true. parent (muba) in Unity There is Strength
Eileen Graham
41:04
no true measures of accountability. I don't understand why we are wasting out tax dollars paying "leaders" in education that cannot and has not come up with better ways ...
Lindsey Fox
41:05
thank you!
Kemala Karmen
41:12
You are so right, re those organizations, but people see “civil rights organization” and stop thinking
Libya Doman
41:24
Denisha🔥🔥🔥
John Whaley
41:45
Testing IS child abuse - amen.
Muba yarofulani
42:21
thanks Denisha. (muba) in Unity There is Strength
Celia Oyler
43:38
I am so appreciating this keen analysis by Denisha and Ricardo!
Jesse Turner
43:59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai9esk0vvPI&ab_channel=TEDxTalks Ricardo Rosa Testing TEDx
Kemala Karmen
44:29
This is amazing! Thank you!
Muba yarofulani
44:46
child abuse charges should be bought up against the DOE for testing. (CPE) Muba parent . in Unity There is Strength
Jane Watson
45:54
am I the only one not hearing anything? screen frozen on Denisha - Ricardo was talking till all went silent
Libya Doman
46:12
🔥🔥🔥
Libya Doman
46:29
thank you Ricardo
Libya Doman
46:39
very abusive
Jesse Turner
47:08
Great books Jack Scheider’s A Better Way to Measure School Quality and Gholdy Muhammad’s Cultivating Genius: An Equity Framework for Culturally and Historically Responsive Literacy…Both author get this issue.
John Whaley
47:24
Mariame Kaba discusses the fallacies of prison reform turning into institutional norms here: “Some reforms end up reproducing the system in another form…you put out some kind of reform, and then that reform becomes institutionalized. Worse than institutionalization, the reform actually creates a new form of consciousness and a new form of “common sense.” That reform itself becomes the new common sense, and that’s so dangerous on so many levels.” Now think about how that is EXACTLY what has happened over the last few generations with standardized testing!
Becky Noël Smith
47:59
Just when we thought the reasons for testing couldn’t get worse!
Jennifer Bourne
49:44
one thing 2016-2020 taught me: there is no bottom. it can always get worse.
Jesse Turner
49:49
Preach Bob
Kemala Karmen
50:58
NY State though needs to communicate this to families.
cindy hamilton
51:23
Just taking the tests will be HS. Removing the traditional stakes is not enough.
Jennifer Bourne
52:22
the high stakes are the problem.
Jesse Turner
52:27
In it to win it
Robert Schaeffer
52:42
www.fairtest.org
Jennifer Bourne
52:43
#ourkidscantwait
Dan Mcconnell
53:49
yep. jebs personal whizz bucket
Rachel Posner
54:22
These spaces are the only ones where people make any sense. What Professor Rosa said is true, people are brainwashed and we need to separate everyone from our abusers.
Jennifer Bourne
54:46
It has been devastating for early childhood experiences in NC. we have double pressure from state with “Read to Achieve” legislation. we are 49th in per pupil spending.
Kemala Karmen
54:51
This is powerful testimony. Thank you.
Dan Mcconnell
55:28
exactly what Karen sprowal described in nyc with success academy
Jennifer Bourne
56:13
Ms. Smith, I am terrified that the “learning loss” rhetoric will move us back toward what you are describing.
Reba Hodge
57:02
Yes Jennifer.
Reba Hodge
57:38
I agree Jennifer.
Jesse Turner
57:38
Places like Texas had numerous tests
bess altwerger
58:06
Save Our Schools is now Uniting to Save Our Schools. Visit us at https://www.facebook.com/UnitingtoSaveOurSchools
cindy hamilton
58:49
TheOptOutFloridaNetwork.wordpress.com We are not recommending distance learners go in to school.
Eileen Graham
58:59
nclb/essa is a joke! we need a national movement. data driven not student centered. let's face it public education is " America's new currency" ...
Dan Mcconnell
59:00
the live to turn humans into numbers to juggle and crunch to feed a machine that just juggles and crunches.
cindy hamilton
01:00:16
Florida has extended the testing window by two weeks and will put that test in front of students thru that entire window and every day a student is their.
Kemala Karmen
01:00:29
This is madddddening. They should totally be subject to criminal prosecution.
cindy hamilton
01:01:25
*there
Jesse Turner
01:01:39
Preach Ceresta
Robert Schaeffer
01:01:44
Important to recognize that the federal government has already said it will waive the "95% participation rule" which districts used to coerce families to take tests. So there should be no fear of penalties from DC for widespread opt outs.
Eileen Graham
01:02:16
yes it does
Julia Kogan
01:02:30
we are doing grammar with 10th grade
cindy hamilton
01:02:44
Yes Bob and districts are lying to families about that.
Jesse Turner
01:03:46
Speaking truth to power Amy
Muba yarofulani
01:04:33
powerful information. preach sister Ceresta. parent (muba) Coalition for Public Education.(CPE) in Unity There is Strength
Ricardo Rosa
01:05:01
A strategy, in part, is to get critical employers to collaborate on a national letter.
Dan Mcconnell
01:05:17
careful...the "shouldn't use just one test" Is exactly why we have to get more tests now. They call it "value added" measures as if that kind of crap actually adds value.
Becky Noël Smith
01:05:22
You can’t run a country on STEM. You need history, social studies, ethics, and humanities
Kemala Karmen
01:05:37
yes to all of this
Jennifer Bourne
01:05:38
and MUSIC!!!
Robert Schaeffer
01:05:59
The commitment of the U.S. Department of Education to waiving the "95% participation requirement" is in the middle of the first bullet point of this Feb. 22 memo --https://oese.ed.gov/files/2021/02/DCL-on-assessments-and-acct-final.pdf
Jennifer Bourne
01:06:19
no one is ever concerned about the trumpet players and dancers we leave behind. why is that?!?!
Becky Noël Smith
01:06:20
Yes, @Jennifer: arts and humanities
Michael DeGuire
01:06:47
Michael Fullan's latest report says the same things that Amy is reminding us in his call to end Academics Obsession and replace it with Well being and Learning!https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?tab=rm&ogbl#search/batrenholme%40gmail.com/WhctKJWQhmkqfptPTjjskvSBzgxrXNXklttnznDXhmMlwfZGTmknXwxLHGqcNTwCzDFJpZb?compose=SxfkdqLhcZfqHsGQtCBsCmNjgdhLcdXtdqccRSFbfMncfhdsccmTWcmFJPTjwSWqqQWQbdgZrLhjRvwBKwwxcsXRSsRPjTPrCBCTBKGXpktNnRmxsWL&projector=1&messagePartId=0.1
bess altwerger
01:07:09
Testing is one aspect of corporate education reform to both reap profits, but also to shape the work force they want.
Julie Kosowski
01:07:15
Anyone here in Chicago?
Ariella Meltzer
01:07:42
@bess The amount of ed-tech companies that develop these tests and manipulate students and parents…so true
Michael DeGuire
01:08:21
Agree totally Amy!!! See Michael Fullan's repot form this February..https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?tab=rm&ogbl#search/batrenholme%40gmail.com/WhctKJWQhmkqfptPTjjskvSBzgxrXNXklttnznDXhmMlwfZGTmknXwxLHGqcNTwCzDFJpZb?compose=SxfkdqLhcZfqHsGQtCBsCmNjgdhLcdXtdqccRSFbfMncfhdsccmTWcmFJPTjwSWqqQWQbdgZrLhjRvwBKwwxcsXRSsRPjTPrCBCTBKGXpktNnRmxsWL&projector=1&messagePartId=0.1
Jesse Turner
01:08:22
Yes Bess, they use testing to shape a very passive work force, who have no idea about who they are.
Ceresta Smith
01:10:42
www.unitedoptoutnational.org
Jennifer Bourne
01:11:11
It is time for education to be about children and child development. how many of our struggling readers are struggling because we are prematurely forcing the property of subtraction and regrouping on them in early
Jennifer Bourne
01:11:16
childhood!!!
Ariella Meltzer
01:11:52
@Michael would you remind relinking that report?
Eileen Graham
01:12:00
good response
Jennifer Bourne
01:12:04
deficit narrative must stop
Becky Noël Smith
01:12:15
And don’t forget that the most important thing we can address during pandemic IS children’s well being. Curricular content in schools does NOT matter right now if children are not well.
Lisa vahey
01:12:15
Can others click on links? It’s not working for me, and really want the Fullan report - can it be sent afterward?
Kemala Karmen
01:12:38
wow, powerful
Lisa vahey
01:12:52
(We can’t cut/paste or save chat in “webinar”)
Denisha Jones (she/her)
01:13:17
https://progressive.org/public-school-shakedown/covid-testing-not-standardized-testing-hagopian-210224/
Nora Krieger
01:13:45
Yes, Jennifer, the testing and extreme discipline in schools is there to create compliant adults who just do what they are told to do. We are also not producing well-rounded educated adults because of the complete emphasis on only math and reading as the measure of the child’s intellect.
Celia Oyler
01:14:00
Tests can measure learning loss when they can’t even measure learning (they are not vertically aligned to do that!)
Dan Mcconnell
01:14:14
ongoing cumulative portfolio of experiences is the way.
Jesse Turner
01:14:18
Learning lost? How about funding loss to pay for testing that comes back after children have moved on to the next grade.
Michael DeGuire
01:14:54
Michael Fullan's February 2021 Report on redesigning how we do education. He calls out the dire need to stopping the Academics Obsession in our country and beyond....https://michaelfullan.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Fullan-CSE-Leading-Education-Series-01-2021R2-compressed.pdf
Jennifer Bourne
01:14:55
YES! human potential cannot be quantified!!!
Nora Krieger
01:14:59
How much of the state education budgets end up being used to buy and grade tests?
Ariella Meltzer
01:15:07
@Ceresta can you talk a bit more about united opt out?
bess altwerger
01:15:09
View the Uniting to Save Our Schools platform at https://www.unitingtosaveourschools.org/usos-platform
Dan Mcconnell
01:15:38
true!
Lisa vahey
01:15:43
Thank you for Fullan link!!!
Eric Seamans
01:15:54
And make money at the expense of disadvantaged people.
Anna Cynar
01:16:06
I love how you mentioned that they aren’t vertically aligned. The MA science graduation test just assess one science class, the current one they are in.
Dan Mcconnell
01:16:32
I opted my girls out Because I don't want their scores used as a stick to whack others with.
Jennifer Bourne
01:16:44
educational malpractice. AMEN
Michael DeGuire
01:16:45
Thank you to this panel of informed experts!!
Becky Noël Smith
01:16:51
Ohhhh Ricardo, that is wonderful!
Libya Doman
01:16:54
whiteness protection
Celia Oyler
01:16:55
“Whiteness protection program”! That is so helpful!
Jennifer Bourne
01:16:57
I feel like I’m home 😆
John Whaley
01:17:09
I feel that PARENTS are the linchpin here, as teachers are typically seen as self-interested (regardless of how untrue and besides the point that is). Parents, especially white, middle-class/affluentsuburban parents are who are going to make this change come to pass. Am I off base here? Is there some other groundswell that is as potent as them?
John Whaley
01:17:18
(Addendum to my previous question - How do we convince the very folx who are the benefactors of all things colonized in our educational system, like standardized testing, to divest from it?)
Julie Kosowski
01:17:23
Thank you, Ricardo!
Julie Kosowski
01:17:42
Thank you Denisha!
Kemala Karmen
01:17:42
+++Ricardo
Jesse Turner
01:18:03
Testing sure produces obedient little workers of course.
RIck Meyer
01:18:09
See the Uniting to Save Our Schools Platform at https://www.unitingtosaveourschools.org/usos-platform
Anna Cynar
01:18:14
I think the scholarships connected to doing well on them in our state makes it hard for many families and teachers to leave behind and support opt out
Libya Doman
01:18:17
What is Ricardo 's last name?
Anna Cynar
01:18:23
Rosa
bess altwerger
01:18:26
Rosa
Dan Mcconnell
01:18:33
thank you
Libya Doman
01:18:41
ty
Muba yarofulani
01:18:50
Ricardo your words of knowledge and facts are needed to be shared in all states that practice standardized test. I live in NYC. parent. muba (CPE) in Unity There is Strength
Julie Kosowski
01:18:56
Ricardo Rosa
Nora Krieger
01:19:02
The oppressor keeps raising the level that must be reached in order to make sure the others do not catch up or not recognized as intelligent.
Robert Schaeffer
01:19:26
Test scores do NOT measure merit -- at best, they measure test-taking skills
Kemala Karmen
01:19:40
John, as someone who organizes parents, I don’t think parents are enough. Many defer to or fear authority figures like teachers and especially principals. We need them to join parents.
Jennifer Bourne
01:20:05
John Whaley I agree that parents have to rise up. it’s so hard to convince them. Especially the high school tests with high percentages of final grades tied to the state and federally mandated tests.
Nora Krieger
01:20:08
This testing is also affecting who becomes a teacher. The scores on standardized certification exams stand in as a measure of whether you will be a quality teacher.
Denisha Jones (she/her)
01:20:28
Yes Nora and they are keeping good teachers out of the classroom!
Kemala Karmen
01:20:29
right, Nora!
Jennifer Bourne
01:21:07
I hear “my kids don’t mind the test,” and “it matters for my high schooler” all the time.
John Whaley
01:21:11
Kamala - so are the administrators the biggest hurdle?
Eileen Graham
01:21:16
wow!
John Whaley
01:21:40
And, Jennifer Bourne - ALL THE TIME. I get dismissed as “yeah, I agree with you philosophically, but *my kid*…”
Eileen Graham
01:21:44
she is talking root causes
Kemala Karmen
01:21:58
In NYC we see opt out is larger at schools where administrators are sympathetic or at least not hostile.
John Whaley
01:22:10
Kemala* (dumb autocorrect)
Frank Gause
01:22:37
Yes Nora! To Amy’s point about testing and segregation, everyone should read R. Scott Bakers’s Paradoxes of Desegregation https://uscpress.com/Paradoxes-of-Desegregation there is a whole chapter on testing and a lot on how teacher testing was conceptualized and why!
Nora Krieger
01:23:03
The parents are afraid. All parents want their children to be successful so they often pull back and are scared not to have their child take the tests.
Eileen Graham
01:23:15
Mrs. Smith for president!
Muba yarofulani
01:23:35
special thanks to all our panelist. in Unity There is Strength
Eileen Graham
01:23:39
money and fear
Anna Cynar
01:23:40
Merit scholarships for students who do well?
Celia Oyler
01:23:53
Teachers of Conscience: https://teachersofconscience.wordpress.com/
Zak Rodriguez
01:24:05
because parents and teachers have an interest in controlling students and opting out is a revolutionary act
Nora Krieger
01:24:42
Absolutely, Teachers are afraid especially if they are not tenured.
Julie Kosowski
01:24:50
Cause it takes a lot of resources to interrupt what folks think is ‘common sense’. Parents and others who are not employed by the districts have to do the heavy lifting as cover for the teachers and admin could lose their jobs.
Jennifer Bourne
01:25:08
I like to share this link with parents: https://college.harvard.edu/about/news-announcements/admissions-update-2021-2022-application-cycle
Lauren Ray
01:25:17
Ed leaders need to be held accountable - we should see groups of superintendents refusing to administer.
Julie Kosowski
01:25:37
That’s how I, as a parent, introduced criticism of standardized testing.
Dan Mcconnell
01:25:52
"strongly opposed" is generous. 20+yrs in NY, my 3 girls refused as soon as RTTT was shoved at us. unions cheered our compliance not our profession
Jennifer Bourne
01:25:56
it does not really help with the 25% weighting of End-of-course tests.
Nora Krieger
01:25:59
Yes, teaching is a political and ideological issue!
Denisha Jones (she/her)
01:26:06
Jesse is here
Dan Mcconnell
01:26:43
and still nysut was weak
Eileen Graham
01:26:45
yes
Nora Krieger
01:26:52
I meant testing is a political and ideological issue.
bess altwerger
01:27:06
Download the Declaration of Professional Conscience for Teachers: https://www.rcowen.com/PDFs/A%20Declaration-KenRev-611x17.pdf
Dan Mcconnell
01:27:10
yep. threats
Richard Owen
01:27:45
Love seeing that Bess! Absolutely.
Deb ANDERSON
01:27:54
In Hawaii, we can “refuse,” not opt out. Our parent group is organizing here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/refusesbahi
bess altwerger
01:28:07
Originally the declaration was written in 1990, updated in 2010. Still completely relevant today.
Julie Kosowski
01:28:12
And how about all the so called liberal white parents who put up BLM signs in their homes? We have to come together and ask ourselves and one another what we can interrupt in our lives that supports white supremacy
Dan Mcconnell
01:28:13
there was a little low key shame for me not offering up my daughters scores to make the school look better
Julie Kosowski
01:28:53
Standardized testing could be low hanging fruit in that it is part of every public school student’s experience
Deb ANDERSON
01:28:55
We’ve been encouraged by national support: http://www.unitedoptoutnational.org/
Muba yarofulani
01:28:57
I am thankful for the support of educators who stand up for righteousness and no one wants to lose their job. however there is true a saying "the upholder is worst than the thief". nothing personal. Parent! in Unity There is Strength
Eileen Graham
01:29:14
we need a kids union
Jennifer Bourne
01:29:26
Many of our equity advocates are also supporters of the accountability that is supposedly addressed by standardized testing.
Dan Mcconnell
01:29:26
yes. REFUSE. no such thing as opt when it's NY or my kids.
Kemala Karmen
01:29:49
UFT in NYC is powerful but has not stood up on this issue. Parents have aligned with dissident caucuses, however.
cindy hamilton
01:30:07
FEA has shared opt out info on their website in the prior FEA admin.
Dianne Alpiste
01:30:39
Is there a link, Cindy?
Julie Kosowski
01:30:59
Jennifer Bourne, I’ve come up against that too.
Becky Noël Smith
01:31:18
It seems clear that the argument of white privilege is being used to discredit the anti-racist argument of the movement
Deb ANDERSON
01:31:35
Mahalo, Denisha!
Ariella Meltzer
01:31:49
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u0dA-z8SKHYzE062z0TURR0iVxMSxauKAdxMDIUXofk/edit Compiled a google doc of resources mentioned thus far - books, papers, etc.
Muba yarofulani
01:32:05
love you Denisha! ( parent muba). in Unity There is Strength
Dan Mcconnell
01:32:10
YESSSS! YOUR child, not theirs!
Rachel Rich
01:32:13
A senator told me parents and teachers must call their local legislators with challenges to standardized testing, otherwise they don’t believe it’s really an issue.
Eileen Graham
01:32:18
I feel like she's my friend.
Reba Hodge
01:32:28
Thank you.
cindy hamilton
01:32:29
Love that....Opt Out Academy.
Ariella Meltzer
01:32:49
Feel free to add to the doc - I just made it eeditable
Deb ANDERSON
01:33:03
Add https://rethinkingschools.org/
Michael DeGuire
01:33:05
How true Denisha..In Denver this year the opt out rates this year are quite HIGH for the white parents and much lower for black and brown families..
Kersti Tyson
01:33:31
As we also talk about opt out academies, can we also do work around educating what good learning opportunities in our classrooms look like? I.e. are your kids are doing a lot of worksheets vs problem based/place based inquiry learning.
Kemala Karmen
01:33:32
Also, in NYC the majority of opt out students are “not economically advantaged”—but people don’t realize or even believe that
Magdalena Dathe
01:33:39
Thanks, Ariella!
Kemala Karmen
01:34:00
This, Ricardo!
Deb ANDERSON
01:34:03
Jesse Hagopian’s https://www.haymarketbooks.org/books/618-more-than-a-score
Deb ANDERSON
01:34:54
http://www.fairtest.org/
Deb ANDERSON
01:35:06
The National Center for Fair & Open Testing
Kemala Karmen
01:35:30
That is very helpful and practical advice!
Michael DeGuire
01:35:34
Ricardo narratives are key good point
Celia Oyler
01:35:35
“Be part of the IN club and opt OUT”
Deb ANDERSON
01:35:52
Definitions of Reliable, Valid & fair from: http://www.teststandards.org/
Celia Oyler
01:35:58
that New Bedford Panel was AMAZING!!!!!!!!
Robert Schaeffer
01:36:19
Just say "no" to standardized test -- FairTest's guide to opting out -- https://www.fairtest.org/get-involved/opting-out
Deb ANDERSON
01:37:10
New York Performance Standards Consortiumshows quality alternatives such as portfolios: http://www.performanceassessment.org/
Kemala Karmen
01:37:31
IntegrateNYC here in NYC has an opt out campaign right now
Eileen Graham
01:37:46
wow
Celia Oyler
01:38:13
Ceresta’s principal is like the NYC principals who refused to open the NYS field test boxes and sent them back
Dan Mcconnell
01:38:19
I want to send that principal a thank you.
Ricardo Rosa
01:38:21
Appreciating all of the energy in this space! Thank you!! Inspiring! Onward!
Eileen Graham
01:38:22
yes
Deb ANDERSON
01:38:32
https://www.citizensforpublicschools.org/opting-out-of-state-standardized-tests-during-covid/
natalie harper
01:39:18
Ms, Smith, I am in Miami, I'd love to keep up to date with what is going on. How can I stay in contact with you?
Deb ANDERSON
01:39:43
Steven Singer: https://gadflyonthewallblog.com/2019/04/18/schools-that-hinder-opt-outs-are-participating-in-their-own-demise/
Ricardo Rosa
01:40:13
We Are an African People: Independent Education, Black Power, and the Radical Imagination - highly recommended book - given Amy’s point
Celia Oyler
01:41:16
Well, to Amy’s point, the edTPA is now the gatekeeper of who gets certified and the numbers re Brown and Black candidates is BAD…..it is a high stakes test to become a teacher
Deb ANDERSON
01:41:36
Washington State has fought back against the edTPA.
Dan Mcconnell
01:41:36
sad I had to prepare my children almost like I would for an arrest
Anna Cynar
01:42:08
What about for high school tests that are graduation requirements?
Ricardo Rosa
01:42:12
Here’s a very short video we’ve created for parents on how to do it in Massachusetts - it applies to a great extent in other contexts
Ricardo Rosa
01:42:15
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1g-kgwyZi8L14olZV2xDahnUlOynpWklE?ths=true
Rachel Rich
01:42:22
Parents can attend school board meetings - in person or on Zoom - to voice their views on testing.
Ariella Meltzer
01:42:38
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u0dA-z8SKHYzE062z0TURR0iVxMSxauKAdxMDIUXofk/edit
Dan Mcconnell
01:42:39
some internal, politically driven incentives
Jennifer Bourne
01:42:40
yes. edTPA is horrible. teachers are being trained to blindly accept manipulated standards and align them in order to pass this test!!!
Ariella Meltzer
01:42:46
Feel free to plug all resources in this google doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u0dA-z8SKHYzE062z0TURR0iVxMSxauKAdxMDIUXofk/edit
Jennifer Bourne
01:43:05
go WA!!!
Kemala Karmen
01:43:24
@Ariella, can you email that to Oren so he can send to those of us who registered?
Nora Krieger
01:43:32
In NJ, it is edTPA and the ballooning number of certification exams. In addition, even at the front end, the Praxis Core is being used to block college students from entering teacher education programs. If you do not have the requisite score on the Praxis core or a 3.0 GPA by the end of your sophomore year, you cannot become a teacher in NJ.
Deb ANDERSON
01:43:37
Helpful Resources: http://www.unitedoptoutnational.org/resources.html
Ariella Meltzer
01:44:06
@kemala yes!
Michael DeGuire
01:44:21
THANK YOU FOR THE GOOGLE DOC OF RESOURCES!
Kemala Karmen
01:44:29
Yes!!!
Celia Oyler
01:44:30
Denisha’s story about the youth is like the Garfield HS students in Seattle who refused the test
Eileen Graham
01:44:43
well-informed people make well-informed decisions
Dan Mcconnell
01:45:35
how do I love this? perfect!
RIck Meyer
01:45:56
Nope. Never
John Whaley
01:46:12
Whoa whoa whoa. Are we validating SAT/AP tests though? Noooooooo
Deb ANDERSON
01:46:23
Would like some state organizing links. 2016 countrywide map based on NASBE data: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/does-your-state-let-students-opt-out-of-standardized-tests
Jane Watson
01:46:57
Jesse Hagopian has a book out - MORE THAN A SCORE
Eileen Graham
01:47:19
good point
Oren Pizmony-Levy
01:47:32
Here is a collection of resources that the audience compiled during the meeting, if you could send this out to participants: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u0dA-z8SKHYzE062z0TURR0iVxMSxauKAdxMDIUXofk/edit
Francesca Blueher
01:48:16
Thank you so much panelists....the work continues!!!
Ariella Meltzer
01:48:27
@Oren can you also email this to all those registered for the webinar afterwards?
Oren Pizmony-Levy
01:48:39
sure thing!
Deb ANDERSON
01:48:44
Arielle Meltzer, we don’t have “edit” access to the https://www.justiceinschools.org/opting-out-standardized-testing
Ariella Meltzer
01:48:48
Thank you so much!
Ariella Meltzer
01:48:54
@Deb let me fix that real quick
Nora Krieger
01:49:16
Thank you.
Ariella Meltzer
01:49:16
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u0dA-z8SKHYzE062z0TURR0iVxMSxauKAdxMDIUXofk/edit?usp=sharing
Dan Mcconnell
01:49:17
trust me, I WILL end up in a team mtg, or at a BOE mtg where spread sheets of test data is the focus, is the foundation, with shamed acknowledgment that the kids need something different. it happens now.
Ariella Meltzer
01:49:19
Try now
Michael DeGuire
01:49:37
testing continues the power of the billionaires to push vouchers sadly so...See Reed Hastings of Netflix and his push to privatize education..
Ariella Meltzer
01:49:40
@Deb is it working now?
Rachel Rich
01:50:08
Legislators say they will always expect some form of testing, whether annual or age span. BUT, they don’t necessarily care which test.
nakisha henry
01:50:10
There needs to be educational reform. Although, you opt-out the curricula is still test prep oriented.
Deb ANDERSON
01:50:15
Not yet. https://www.nasbe.org/opt-out-policies-by-state/
Jennifer Bourne
01:50:42
test in home languages!!!!
Rachel Rich
01:50:58
Yes!
Dan Mcconnell
01:51:10
I know other parents who were pressed. semi-coerced with loss of services. parents need advocates.
Sue Schlembach
01:51:23
Thank you so much! This is vitally important information and we must continue pushing the conversation forward to educate families and students.
Deb ANDERSON
01:51:25
Still grayed “Request Edit Access.” Another strategy has been putting anti-test activists on school boards.
Kemala Karmen
01:52:01
Love your clarity, Ceresta!
Eileen Graham
01:52:28
let's prepare children for the future not a test
Ariella Meltzer
01:52:32
Feel free to message me your email and I can give you edit access. So Sorry. Not sure why it isn’t working
Jennifer Bourne
01:52:50
students for whom English is a second language should not be tested in English. love be that EOC project substitution idea. yes.
Ariella Meltzer
01:53:21
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u0dA-z8SKHYzE062z0TURR0iVxMSxauKAdxMDIUXofk/edit?usp=sharing
Dan Mcconnell
01:53:29
most hope I've had in a while
Deb ANDERSON
01:53:34
Interesting perspective: October 9, 2017Promoting White Privilege: A look at the Opt-Out Movement By Sarah L. Hairston http://www.ajeforum.com/promoting-white-privilege-a-look-at-the-opt-out-movement-by-sarah-l-hairston/
Jennifer Bourne
01:53:41
teachers override final grades, but only those who are empowered.
Dan Mcconnell
01:54:55
teacher here. agree. many afraid or even bought in to pouring over data on spreadsheets vs looking at students
Michael DeGuire
01:55:26
"Teachers are the experts on educating children not the testing companies" ..beautiful!
Deb ANDERSON
01:55:49
AERA '19: Testing policies are the 'Jim Crow of education,' association president suggests https://www.k12dive.com/news/aera-19-testing-policies-are-the-jim-crow-of-education-association-pre/552188/
Rachel Rich
01:55:56
Could you please address working with legislators? Our state tests were adopted by the legislature as much as the education department.
Dan Mcconnell
01:56:46
easier to use numbers against the moral obligations than meet them through humane policy
Kemala Karmen
01:56:52
yes NYC Opt Out has some limited resources in Spanish
Eileen Graham
01:57:27
https://nysape.org/
Rachel Rich
01:57:34
Some of our schools have speakers of as many as 17 languages. Lack of translations is a serious issue.
Ricardo Rosa
01:57:56
Critical to go on Spanish media
Sue Schlembach
01:58:35
Yes! Thank you for the Google Doc of resources! Fantastic!!
Ariella Meltzer
01:58:41
I’m so sorry about the edit access on the google doc, everyone…feel free to send me an email arimel@umich.edu and I can give you direct edit access. Not sure why it isn’t working
Deb ANDERSON
01:58:49
Opting OutThe Story of the Parents’ Grassroots Movement to Achieve Whole-Child Public SchoolsDavid Hursh https://myersedpress.presswarehouse.com/browse/author/ea9ffc29-423a-4493-9ec8-1c531078f4cc/David-Hursh
Kemala Karmen
01:58:53
https://www.optoutnyc.com/spanish
Michael DeGuire
01:58:56
Thank you so much. I hope this will be recorded and available to retrieve.:)
Zak Rodriguez
01:59:05
Every Student Succeeds Act Section 9202 explicitly protects teachers first amendment rights.
Jennifer Bourne
01:59:10
this feels like the moment.
Julia Kogan
01:59:22
Thank you so much. This was great.
Ricardo Rosa
01:59:30
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1g-kgwyZi8L14olZV2xDahnUlOynpWklE?ths=true
Dan Mcconnell
02:00:08
I always asked my kids about lunch and recess
Thomas Roepke
02:01:07
Answer to why we do so much testing is the industry that drives it… Pearson, etc
Kemala Karmen
02:02:01
NYC Opt Out also has resources on testing, race, & class: https://www.optoutnyc.com/race-class-opt-out
Deb ANDERSON
02:03:23
https://resilienteducator.com/lifestyle/opt-out-standardized-testing/
Rachel Rich
02:03:29
Kids need an asset-based education.
Kemala Karmen
02:04:02
yes, Denisha!
Deb ANDERSON
02:04:04
I hate to mention that the cutting of school librarians who support individual research is part of deprofessionalization and reducing college prep
Sue Schlembach
02:04:31
Yes Denisha! Thank you!
Blakely Bundy
02:04:32
Yay, Denisha! Right on!
nakisha henry
02:04:59
Yes, Denisha. Test taking is counterproductive.
Julia Kogan
02:05:05
this insane rigor and over expectations with learning during this pandemic causes a lot of anxiety for the students and also teachers
Deb ANDERSON
02:05:07
Organization recommended: https://www.facebook.com/BadassTeachersAssociation/
RIck Meyer
02:05:08
Thank you for such a brilliant and informative evening!!
Ricardo Rosa
02:05:09
Thank you for the invitation! Peace, joy & justice!
Deb ANDERSON
02:05:19
Hope we can save this chat also
Lindsey Fox
02:05:33
Thank you!!
Dan Mcconnell
02:05:37
I need more of this for my soul
Jennifer Bourne
02:05:39
www.nctestingreform.org was here ❤️
Thomas Roepke
02:05:42
Thanks to you all…a very important conversation!
Maria
02:05:48
Thank you all!!
Paola De Dominicis
02:05:50
THANK YOU FOR SUCH A GREAT DISCUSSION.
Jennifer Bourne
02:05:52
thank you!!!!
Eric Seamans
02:05:52
Thank you!!!
bess altwerger
02:05:52
Thank you Oren and all the panelists.
Kemala Karmen
02:05:55
This was so, so good. Thank you so much. I think it would be break out small pieces of this that can be circulated more widely
Jessica Heybach
02:05:57
Thank you so much!!
Heather MacPhail
02:05:58
Thank you!
Thomas Roepke
02:06:02
Will do!
Dan Mcconnell
02:06:07
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Robert Schaeffer
02:06:08
Thanks to everyone who logged on !!!
Chelsea Iasello
02:06:09
thank you so much!!!
Blakely Bundy
02:06:12
Thank you! Excellent!
Sue Schlembach
02:06:17
Definitely!
Eric Seamans
02:06:19
No PW needed to share this recording?
michelle knotts
02:06:19
Thank you! Excited to share!
Ariella Meltzer
02:06:24
Thank you so much!!!
RIck Meyer
02:06:25
Thanks Oren!